Thursday, Jul. 15, 2004 - 1:22 a.m.

Travails of the Vyzygoth

If you were listening to AM radio in Florida last Friday, you might have heard something that could have given you the impression that I am a right-wing racist. Here’s what really happened:

A few months ago, I started listening to a radio show called From the Grassy Knoll, a conspiracy-theory show broadcast in Dade City, Florida, and with mp3’s on its website that I download frequently. I first found this show on radio4all.net, which I think is run by anarcho-communists. Ironically, I haven’t heard a lick of class analysis on From the Grassy Knoll.

Twice in the past, I linked from this diary to a few specific shows of From the Grassy Knoll, but I never had a link to the main From the Grassy Knoll website. I did this intentionally because I don’t endorse this show, because in some ways it seriously conflicts with my values and contradicts my analysis. Also, I don’t think the quality of the research presented on the show is consistent; sometimes it seems solid to me, while other times it seems to me to be little more than wild speculation and prejudice.

Last week I was surprised to get an email from Vyzygoth, the host of the show. Below I reproduce the emails, unabridged, and edited only for formatting:

Hello:

I traced back your URL from my site's stat package.

Thanks for giving a listen. If you are interested: some of the links you've imbedded in your entries that lead to my audio files have changed so that anyone who wishes to check it out will get a 404. You can find the changes at shows.vyzygothsgrassyknoll.org. That's your call, of course.You made some interesting points in your article about 9-11, the most poignant perhaps your statement about regardless if the terrorism was state-sponsored or not, people wind up just as dead and injured.

My only response about the importance of knowing from whence the event came is that, in understanding such, one can better grasp how this manufactured terror--executed by every nation's government (no respecter of any political party)--is being used to incorporate all nations into a one-world govenment, totalitarian in nature as foretold in Orwell's books and those of H.G. Wells, the latter a part of the Kindergarten/Round Table planning committees in the early part of the 20th century. There is a wealth of books, written in their own hand, that details their plans. The elites knew they would never see a global government but remained dedicated to doing what they could to bring about its inception. Those works are what convinced me that what is being done in this country, as well as others, is not about fighting terrorism but building a grid of total control over the population. Right now our government only has to tell the people that chip implants are about fighting terrorism, and our people, without analyzing the situation, raise not their voice against such measures because, after all, it's about fighting terrorism . . . isn't it?

If you can arrive at the conclusion that our government has long ago turned more adversarial then advocate toward its people--and this started in force in the early thirties--than you can see clearly that what is happening in not for our welfare but slavery: The New Feudalism.

Thanks for taking the time to get through this, if indeed you made it to the end.

Long may you run,

Vyz

Dear Vyz,

I traced back your URL from my site's stat package.

Wow! I can't believe you wrote me! I've gotten a lot of thought-provoking info out of your show, and I keep coming back for more. I really appreciate your ongoing effort. I discovered your show through radio4all.net.

Thanks for giving a listen. If you are interested: some of the links you've imbedded in your entries that lead to my audio files have changed so that anyone who wishes to check it out will get a 404. You can find the changes at shows.vyygothsgrassyknoll.org. That's your call, of course.

Thanks for the reminder. I'll update my links.

is being used to incorporate all nations into a one-world govenment, totalitarian in nature as foretold in Orwell's books

Orwell and Huxley make this future sound really, really bad. Are you sure they wanted this to happen, or were they whistleblowers? Their books are part of what awakened me to this threat.

not for our welfare but slavery: The New Feudalism.

The funny thing is that even if they got their way, their system would not be able to work well, and would soon collapse. I'd still like to prevent them from trying, though, because that collapse could take everybody with it.

My friend who does the website oilempire.us has 911review.org on his list of bogus 9/11 truth sites. I'm not sure why.

I went back and started listening to your shows from the begginning of your archive. I heard your first show, in which you complain about "mongrelization" and the influx of Catholics from Mexico. I was instantly astonished and appalled because I'm used to associating those ideas with the most vicious purveyors of hatred and prejudicial intolerance. When I got over being appalled, I got curious. Do you belive that whites and Protestants are superior? I'm not asking this to be accusatory; I genuinely want to know. Would you be into letting me know what led you to these beliefs?

Thanks,

Nexus

Wow! I can't believe you wrote me! I've gotten a lot of thought-provoking info out of your show, and I keep coming back for more. I really appreciate your ongoing effort. I discovered your show through radio4all.net.

Thanks for your kind words.

Orwell and Huxley make this future sound really, really bad. Are you sure they wanted this to happen, or were they whistleblowers? Their books are part of what awakened me to this threat.

Orwell was privvy to the plans of Cecil Rhodes and others like Lord Milner, the Webbs, George Bernard Shaw, et. al., that is those who wanted a world order governed by white elites. Orwell was also British Intelligence and had been to Russia, whose Communism was created by the supracapitalists like the Rothschild banking houses, Rockefeller, Schiff, Ford, and others. Lenin was given 20 million by Schiff to finance the Bolshevik Revolution, and Trotsky tooled up for his part in New York City. This is classic good cop (US), bad cop (USSR) created by these elites or Illuminati.

Orwell, I believe, just told us what to expect. He knew how we would be mind controlled. And it is happening to a tee. Our government keeps talking about "freedom" on every holiday, yet they're busy taking it away, hence Orwell's "Freedom is Slavery"; "War is Peace," which now realize is the same as the current slogan: "Perpetual war for perpetual peace. It's loonie. By the way, Orwell died shortly after writing "1984" and some believe this wasn't a coincidence. The globalists may not have appreciated his exposing part of the plan.

Huxley, his brother, Julian, and their grandfather all believed in genetic purity. "Brave New World" is no joke. Keep some knuckle-draggers around to do the work and keep them high on drugs to make their slavish existence tolerable. Check out Huxley's speech at Berkeley in 1962. Do a search on "the ultimate revolution" and listen to the file. Though Huxley sounds like somebody's grandfather, his words speak of a "scientific dictatorship" or control by chemicals. The guy is a beast.

The funny thing is that even if they got their way, their system would not be able to work well, and would soon collapse. I'd still like to prevent them from trying, though, because that collapse could take everybody with it.

I look at this from a spiritual viewpoint. I believei this driven by Satan and will bring about the Satanic Reign as spoken of in the Old and New Testament. Seeing it that way, I agree with you. I think the system many not last a decade, but it's how bad things will get along the way that will be heartbreaking.

My friend who does the website oilempire.us has 911review.org on his list of bogus 9/11 truth sites.I'm not sure why.

I'll go check it out. I mean does this person believe that 19 highjackers pulled off 9/11 and that the towers actually burned to the ground? Otherwise, Elliott has done a decent job, but to tell you the truth, I'm sick of pulling apart 9/11. It's a mud bog. People keep spinning their wheels in it. I'm always ready to deconstruct that day if challenged, but besides that, I'm looking at where we are headed.

I went back and started listening to your shows from the begginning of your archive. I heard your first show, in which you complain about mongrelization and the influx of Catholics from Mexico. I was instantly astonished and appalled because I'm used to associating those ideas with the most vicious purveyors of hatred and prejudicial intolerance. When I got over being appalled, I got curious. Do you belive that whites and Protestants are superior?

No, not superior. White Protestants, however, just happened to be the majority of the people who built this country up from the 13 colonies. Call it a freak of nature. I have always wondered why God had races separated on their own continents? Was there a purpose for separation? I don't know.

The issue about mongrelization is in the Illuminati plan to deteriorate every strong society on the way to a nationless one-world government. If you think about it, all the immigration is from third-world countries into predominately anglo, industrial countries. These third-worlders have been kept in deliberate poverty to do just this. Africans, Arabs, and Central Americans have been jacked around for centuries. The U.S. was never really a melting pot, but it did assimilate other cultures, mainly anglo-European. Before, these cultures made a genetic contribution and became Americans. Now, we're being asked to bend to the cultures coming in. When that happens, then the U.S. or any nation ceases what it was that drew others to it. Again, these cultures are being used, too. The plan, as laid out in the Third Communist International, calls for taking over nations like ours through racial/ethnic strife. Destruction from within, then, later, it will come from without.

In defense of whites, I will say this: For most of my life I've been the hated WASP and so, I, like others took on this guilt. Then probably a decade ago, I said, what a minute, you know what? I llike being white. Well, we've been so propagandized, that people hear that and automatically (and I do mean automatically) think that's racist. But it's not. I have no problems with other races. But am I to believe we can't have white pride?

And, too, if you think about it, how many commercials depict the white male/husband/boyriend as jerk or submissive? I mean it's offensive. If you've not noticed, take a look across a week's worth of paying attention to commercials and print ads.

This is another planned attack on the white protestant. It's called gradualism or Fabianism. Make the attack, non-violent, subliminal, and incremental so the transformation isn't even noticed.

I'm not asking this to be accusatory; I genuinely want to know. Would you be into letting me know what led you to these beliefs?

No problem. As I said, I have no problem with any races. They are being used as well, but what does bug me is when groups like La Mecha, La Raza, Aztlan start bashing whites and talk about taking over the U.S. That automatically puts me in defensive postion, because if I'm attacked, I will fight. I hope this never happens, but I'm afraid these groups don't understand that they are being jacked around, too. It's not a pretty picture, but that's what has driven me to do the show; at least it's something to get the word out.

The bit about the Latinos being Catholic: The Vatican is also a heavy in the New World Order. Right now it might the chief agent backed by the Jesuit Order. Since the Vatican always hated the U.S. because it was formed mainly by breakaway Protestants, it uses Roman Catholics to do its dirty work in the U.S. Again, nothing against Catholics, most of them won't beileve the Vatican is an agent of conquest, anyway, but they are being used as tools as they were in the last big Catholic migration, that of the Irish who came to this country and were a great part of the Union army that defeated the Protestant states-rights advocate Southern Confederacy.

Thanks for your reply, Nexus, long may you run . . .

hey nexus:

you motivated me to do a show on "mongrelization." the second hour of the knoll tomorrow, july, 9th, will deal with the issue. if you get a chance, we stream real-time at 5-7 pm EST on pascoradio.org. click "listen live."

if you can't listen or wish to wait for the radio4all.net appearance, you can always go to

vyzygothsgrassyknoll.org. for an early appearance; and i keep another website for articles on pascoradio.org.

if you have a show idea or a person you'd like to hear in interview, let me know.

vyz

The show was Illegal Immigration, Mongrelization, and the Planned Destruction of the United States, an interview with Eric Jon Phelps, author of Vatican Assassins. 33 minutes into the show, Vyzygoth says, “You know, this show was going to happen anyway, and I kind of put it to the forefront because I got an email from a listener who was very honest. Whoever the individual is, the name is Nexus, and Nexus said, ‘you know, I listened to ‘mongrelization’ and at first I was appalled and angered, and after that faded away, I took a look at it, and I realized that no, it wasn’t necessarily a racist thing, it was just a statement of fact.’ And Nexus asked me, ‘do you think whites are superior?’ And I’m saying I’m not talking about superiority. What I’m saying is that the United States, for whatever reason, call it a freak of nature, was founed by White Anglo-Saxon Protestants. That’s just the way it was.”

You can see above to reread what I actually wrote.

Vyzygoth went on to say, “also, I wrote to Nexus and I said, ‘you know it’s, you have to understand something. We’ve all been conditioned, so that when whites talk about, shall we say, white pride, or liking being white, or trying to defend ourselves, it’s immediately knee-jerk reacted to by saying ‘you’re racist.’ And it’s like, why? I mean if I, if I were to be black and said I like being black, that’s okay, but if you say anything positively about your own race, being white, that’s seen as being immediately racist.”

you motivated me to do a show on "mongrelization."

Dear Vyz,

On your show you said that in my email to you, I said, “you know, I listened to ‘mongrelization’ and at first I was appalled and angered, and after that faded away, I took a look at it, and I realized that no, it wasn’t necessarily a racist thing, it was just a statement of fact.” What I really wrote was: “When I got over being appalled, I got curious […] Would you be into letting me know what led you to these beliefs?”

Upon hearing you talk about me on the show, I was alarmed, because if my ideas are going to be represented in public, I’d like them to be represented accurately. If you really thought you were paraphrasing me, if you really thought I agreed with you that “mongrelization” is a fact, I must apologize for not making myself perfectly clear. I do not agree that “mongrelization” is a statement of fact, because I do not buy into the assumptions upon which the concept of “mongrelization” are based.

I was really disappointed to hear Phelps present more innuendo than argument. He does not adequately establish the specific mechanisms by which the Jesuits direct population movements from point A to point B, nor does he even begin to explain how Catholics act as slaves of the Vatican and do whatever their priest says. He ineptly dodges the involvement of Protestants in slavery. The Vatican and (some) Arabs may have been involved in the slave trade, but a lot of his heroes, the Southern white Protestants, were the ones who kept them enslaved in the United States. You can worry about the New World Order’s universal slavery to come, but those abducted Africans endured it already, and the cruelty of their captivity can scarcely be exceeded.

Three years ago, I wrote this song:

Miscegenate
For pan-species unity
Cause unify we humans must
Cross-fertilize cultures and ideas
Cause purity begets stagnation, isolation, and mistrust

Our descendants will be gray and proud
Their ancestors, they’ll proclaim loud
Were Asian, African, European, Native American, Pacific Islander
Part Australian Aborigine, part Aleut, part Scottish Highlander

If I were to rewrite that today, I wouldn’t use the word “unity” because that could be too easily misconstrued to mean support for global government, but I still hold with the rest of the sentiment. Race does not exist, so your concept of “mongrelization” is meaningless to me. It’s just humans interbreeding with other humans, and I’m not going to get concerned over that any more than I would over cats interbreeding with other cats. Sure, people look different, but why make a bigger deal of skin color than eye color or height or weight or ears or toes?

Race is a racist concept; one can’t believe in race without entering into a racist mindset. I use the words “black” and “white” as abstractions of convenience, but I only find them useful when discussing racism.

“White” history, “white” culture, and “white” identity is a joke. The people lumped in to the “white” group came from an diverse array of cultures which would never have thought they had much in common 500 years ago. Whiteness is an abstraction invented by the American ruling class, a groundless superstition promulgated as a divide-and-conquer tactic, so that poor European-Americans would believe they had more in common with their masters, discouraging strategically advantageous alliances between them and the Indians and black slaves. The ethnicities lumped into the “white” category have changed over time. Hitler later imported American racism and made it part of the Nazi creed. I am pained when I see you and your show buying into the idea of race, which has been used to create death and misery on such a grand scale. Would you be willing to reconsider the notion of race on a deeper level?

The southwestern states were seized by the US from Mexico in a war of aggression. I’m aghast at Phelps’ hypocrisy of complaining that Mexican immigrants are breaking the law, when it’s southern Mexicans moving to what was once northern Mexico. So while I did not agree with the hate-mongering of Augustin Cebeda, the Brown Panther Information Minister, I could see where he was coming from: European-descended people are the immigrants compared to Native American Indian-descended people (a large portion of Mexicans and Central Americans.) Phelps does a poor job of blaming all the Indian massacres on Catholics after the Civil War. He neglects Andrew Jackson’s Trail of Tears, and the ample Indian-killing before the Civil War.

Phelps tries to make a case that rates of incarceration among Catholics and blacks is some objective indicator that their culture is inferior, ignoring the ample evidence out there of bias in law enforcement. Phelps’ statement, “the blacks don’t respect private property, they’re vicious, they’re full of crime,” speaks volumes. He’s willing to make sweeping generalizations, demonizing a huge number of people. Even if that were true, I’d say he’s confusing an effect for a cause. Offering no context, he implies that these qualities are innate. While I’m not into labeling people, Phelps’ views sound strongly racist to me. He may even have black friends, and not think of himself as a racist, but that doesn’t mitigate what he’s saying. Why do you associate yourself with this guy’s views?

At first I was interested in Phelps’ book, but now that I’ve heard the sloppiness of his analysis of current events, it’s hard not to doubt the rigor of his historiography.

I want to make clear that I’m just as opposed to latino pride and latino power, and black pride and black power, as I am opposed to white pride and white power, because they all buy into the racist idea that race is real. I’m a little less concerned about the former, because those groups don’t (yet) have the power to significantly oppress people. When people form identities as part of mass-scale groups, this only makes it easier for centralized power to play puppet-master with them. I’m discouraged when I see you reinforcing those identities, because I believe you’re just aiding the plans of your enemies.

As an alternative, I suggest that people form relationships of affinity on a personal, small scale, with whoever they feel like they share an affinity with, whether they’re they have skins of the same color or different colored skins.

So after listening to your show with Phelps, I remain appalled. I’m concerned that this will just lead to more hatred and mistrust, and worried that these views could contribute to senseless violence in the future.

Sincerely,

Nexus

Nonsequitir titbit:

Bush delegates authority to his dog.

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